Program - 2025 Clinical Conference

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Program

2025 Conference on Clinical Legal Education

Date: April 26 – April 29, 2025

Location: Baltimore Marriott Waterfront

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» Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop

Sessions by Date & Time

4:00 PM - 7:00 PM AALS Registration

7:30 AM - 7:00 PM AALS Registration

7:30 AM - 8:45 AM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: Coffee with Colleagues

8:45 AM - 9:00 AM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop Welcome and Introduction

9:00 AM - 10:30 AM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: ABA Standards Workshop - Opportunities to Strengthen and Expand Clinical Programs Under New and Emerging ABA Standards

10:30 AM - 10:45 AM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: Coffee with Colleagues

10:45 AM - 12:15 PM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: ABA Standards Workshop Continued

12:15 PM - 1:45 PM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop Luncheon (Informal)

1:45 PM - 3:15 PM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: Small Group Discussions - Leadership in Challenging Times

3:15 PM - 3:30 PM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: Coffee with Colleagues

3:30 PM - 4:30 PM Associate Deans and Clinical Program Directors Workshop: Leadership Panel - Leveraging Opportunity in Dynamic Times

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM AALS Reception Featuring Clinical Legal Education Posters

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Banned in the USA and 303(c)

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Building Collaborative Clinical Programs with Forensic Psychiatrists

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Clinical Pedagogy Reading Groups as a Strategy for Deepening Collaboration Across Clinics

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Clinics, Externships, and Changes to the Bar Exam: Challenge or Opportunity?

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Cross-Clinic Collaboration: A Client-Centered Learning Approach

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Empowering All Learners: Teaching to Different Learning Styles in the Clinical Setting

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Ensuring Litigation Continuity in Clinical Education: Managing Turnover While Meeting ABA Standard 303

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Expungement Navigators

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Field Goals: An Assessment of Goal Setting, and Achieving, in Law School Externships

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Inspiring Young Lawyers to Pursue the Path of Clinical Education: A Clinical Fellow’s Perspective

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Mandated Reporting & the Legal Educator's Duty

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: New Horizons: Opportunities for Addressing Access to Justice

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Perceptions and Perspectives of New Legal Realism and Synthetic Media-Enhanced Transformational Lawyering on Clinical and Interdisciplinary Pedagogy

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Reexamining the Role of Lawyers and the Responsibilities of Clinical Teachers in Society: The Low-Wage Worker Community Clinic

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Survey Says! A System for Clients to Provide Feedback and Improve the Program

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Teaching Through Storytelling

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: The Legacy of Fred Korematsu

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: The Promise and Limitations of Civil and Criminal Records Expungement

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM Poster Presentation: Transformative Clinical Teaching Across the Program

7:00 PM - 8:30 PM Georgetown University Law Center Faculty, Fellows, and Alumni Reception

7:15 PM - 8:15 PM International Colleague Welcome Gathering Hosted by International Clinical Legal Education Committee

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM A Coffee Chat for New Clinicians hosted by the Membership, Outreach & Training (MOT) Committee

7:30 AM - 7:00 PM AALS Registration

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM AALS Section on Clinical Legal Education Committee Meetings

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Awards Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM CLEA Board Meeting and Board Candidate Meet and Greet

7:30 AM - 8:45 AM Coffee with Colleagues

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Scholarship Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Yoga for You

8:45 AM - 9:00 AM Welcome and Introduction

9:00 AM - 10:30 AM Opening Plenary Session: Chaos, Cacophony, and Clarity: Who We Are and Need to Be

10:30 AM - 10:45 AM Coffee with Colleagues

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM AI-Augmented Clinical Legal Practice: Workflow Integration for Enhanced Efficiency

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Clinicians in the Dean's Suite: The Promise and Perils of Leading Change in Legal Education

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Concurrent Sessions

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Decolonizing the Clinical Seminar

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Every Dollar Matters: Creative Solutions for Removing Financial Barriers in Experiential Education

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Falling with Style - Oops I Did It Again: The Art of the Stumble: Transforming Mistakes Into Learning

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Partners in Crime: Collaborations and Partnerships by Criminal/Youth Justice Clinics

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Queer Theory and Practice in Clinical Legal Education

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM The Risk Not Taken? The Case for Innovating the Clinical Menu to Out-Innovate Reform in Licensure and Accreditation Standards

10:45 AM - 11:45 AM Transactional Lawyering: Cultivating Cultural and Ethical Competencies with AI in Legal Clinics

12:00 PM - 1:45 PM AALS Luncheon featuring the Section on Clinical Legal Education M. Shanara Gilbert Award, Stephen J. Ellmann Memorial Clinical Scholarship Award, William Pincus Award, and Impact on the Externship Field Award Presentations

2:00 PM - 3:30 PM Working Group Discussions

3:30 PM - 3:45 PM Coffee with Colleagues

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Client-Centered Lawyering in the Age of Generative AI

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Closing the Gap: The Case for Revising Standard 405(c)

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Concurrent Sesssions

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Confronting Risk to Teach Courage

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Modernizing Clinical and Experiential Training in Criminal Defense to Reflect the Realities of Practice in the Era of Advancing Forensics and Technology

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Practicing Abolitionism: The Role of Law Clinics in Leveraging the Movement to Abolish Family Policing

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Professional Identity Through the Lenses of Democratic Lawyering, Trauma-Informed Advocacy, Mindfulness, and Cognitively-Based Compassion Training

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Teaching/Motivating Direct Representation in Tumultuous Times

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM The Limits of the Law: How Law Clinics Can Become Problem-Solving Clinics

3:45 PM - 4:45 PM Transactional Lawyering in the Margins: Using Cross-Clinical Collaborations to Better Support Economic Justice for Justice-Impacted Entrepreneurs

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Beyond Bootcamp: Designing a Clinic Orientation to Engage and Inspire

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Building Bridges: How Cross-Clinic Programming Maximizes Learning and Community

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Can You Be an Abolitionist and a Public Defender?

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Concurrent Sessions

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Confronting Trump 2.0: Reflecting on the Responsibilities of Fundamental Rights and Human Rights Lawyers in Clinical Legal Education

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Pedagogy of Utopic Lawyering

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Rethinking Clinical Supervision

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Social Vision as Professional Identity: Crises, Values, and Lawyering

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM The Growing Role of Clinics in Defending Entrepreneurs from Scammers, Trolls and Underhanded Actors

5:00 PM - 6:00 PM Working with the Original Sovereigns: The Role of (Student) Lawyers and Clinical Teachers in Indian, Tribal and Native Hawaiian Law Clinics

6:30 PM - 8:00 PM University of Baltimore School of Law Reception

7:30 AM - 5:00 PM AALS Registration

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM AALS Section on Clinical Legal Education Committee Meetings

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM ADR Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Clinical Section EC Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 9:00 AM Coffee with Colleagues

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Contemplative Session: Finding Serenity in the Midst of This

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Externships Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Interdisciplinary Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Teaching Methodology Committee Meeting

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Transactional Law Clinics Committee Meeting

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Beyond Non-Directiveness: How to Scaffold Student Learning in the Classroom and Supervision

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Concurrent Sesssions

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Getting Gritty: Cultivating Students' Growth Mindset in the Clinical Classroom

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Imagining an ABA Standard 303(c) Clinic Curriculum Tailored to Your Clinic

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM LGBTQ+ Clinics in Law Schools: Rare but Crucial Opportunities for Law Students and LGBTQ+ Communities

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Reexamining the Role of the Criminal Clinic

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Teaching for Social Change: An Inquiry Through the Lens of Housing

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Teaching Resilience and Self-Care While Doing the Hard Work

9:00 AM - 10:00 AM Why Not a 1L Clinic?

10:00 AM - 10:15 AM Coffee with Colleagues

10:15 AM - 11:45 AM Working Group Discussions

12:00 PM - 12:30 PM Guided Intention Setting (It's Fun, Promise!)

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM Lunch on Your Own

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM Special Session on Academic Freedom

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Balancing Advocacy, Academic Freedom, and Ethical Responsibility: Navigating Client Representation and Defending Free Expression in Clinically-Based Education

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Clinical Approaches to Solving the Housing Crisis

1:00 PM - 4:15 PM Clinicians of Color Workshop

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Concurrent Sesssions

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Decentering the US and Whiteness When Promoting International Collaborations through Externships and Clinics

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Developing Brazilian Clinics: Advancing Legal Services for Vulnerable Populations

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Responsibility and Responsiveness: What Roles Should Lawyers Play in Shaping Society

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Unified Justice: Advancing Holistic Legal Education through Structured Cross-Clinic Collaboration

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Universalizing the University: Criminal Defense Clinic as a Case Study in Leveraging Untapped Resources

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Best Practices in Supporting our LGBTQI+ Students

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Bridging the Gap: Faculty and Clinic Manager Collaboration for Successful Student and Social Impact

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Concurrent Sessions

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Issue Lawyering in Hostile State Climates

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Stop Guessing and Start Listening: Why and How to Do Legal Needs Assessments

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Thinking Non-Urban Rather Than Rural - Successfully Developing Rural Opportunities for Students to Serve Rural Communities

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM To Be or Not to Be: Setting the Stage for Community Lawyering, a Play in Three Acts

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Uncomfortable Collaboration: Teaching Students to Navigate Typically Adversarial Relationships in Cooperative Settings

2:15 PM - 3:15 PM Working with Tenant Associations and Grassroots Tenant Organizations

3:15 PM - 3:30 PM Coffee with Colleagues

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Empowering Underserved Entrepreneurs: Innovative Collaborations and Funding Strategies for Entrepreneurship and IP clinics

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Generative AI in Legal Clinics: Training Tomorrow's Lawyers with Emerging Technology

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Integrating Prison Reform and Abolition Arguments in Post-Conviction Litigation

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Intergroup Dialogue Faculty Training - A Case Study

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Lightning Sessions

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Recharge and Achieve: Maximizing Your Sabbatical for Restoration and Growth

3:30 PM - 4:00 PM Why Emotional Intelligence Training is Critical in Clinics

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM A Place at the Table: How the NextGen Bar Exam is Changing the Status of Clinical Education

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM CED Clinics and CED Practitioners in Society

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM Challenging Mass Incarceration and Fighting Forensic Evidence: New Clinical Approaches to Dismantling the Criminal Legal Apparatus

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM Grassroots Visions, Global Tools: Strategies for Human Rights Clinics Supporting Localized Movements

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM Lightning Sessions

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM Preventive Family Law: How Family Law Clinics Can Help Prevent and Repair the Harms of Family Policing

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM Representing Rural Clients: Challenges and Opportunities for Legal Clinics

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM Straight From the Students: The Impact of Experiential Learning on Student Professional Identity Formation

4:15 PM - 4:45 PM The Relational Lawyer: Preparing Students to Navigate Complexity and Build Trust in Challenging Times

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Celebrating the Publication of Deborah Archer’s Dividing Lines

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Clinical Section Awards Committee Open to Conversion About the Process of Nomination for Awards

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Externships Colleagues Gathering

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Florida Clinicians

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Hon's Honey

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Hot Topics in Education Law and How to Integrate Current Events and Policy Work Into Education Clinics

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Integrating Wellness and Self-Care

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Navigating Challenges at Public Universities

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gathering: Texas Clincians Gathering

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Community Gatherings

5:00 PM - 6:30 PM Town Hall on Academic Freedom

6:00 PM - 7:30 PM University of Maryland Francis King Carey School of Law Reception

7:30 AM - 3:30 PM AALS Registration

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM AALS Section on Clinical Legal Education Committee Meetings

7:30 AM - 9:00 AM Coffee with Colleagues

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM Contemplative Session: Tentative

7:30 AM - 8:30 AM International Committee

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM AALS Section on Clinical Legal Education Works in Progress

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Bellow Scholars Program Report on Projects

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Bellow Scholars Program Report on Projects: Anna VanCleave, University of Connecticut School of Law - Bail, Detention, and Pretrial Procedures in Connecticut: An Analysis of Current Practices and Recommendations for the Elimination of Cash Bail

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Bellow Scholars Program Report on Projects: Jyoti Nanda, Southwestern Law School (with Maritza Salazar) - The Pathways of Girls/Gender Expansive Youth into and within the Youth Carceral System

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Bellow Scholars Program Report on Projects: Rachel Goldberg, Cornell Law School (with Sandra Babcock and Allison Koenecke): Analyzing Women’s Capital Trials for Gender-Biased Language

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Bellow Scholars Program Report on Projects:Laura McNally, Case Western Reserve School of Law - Examining the Impact of “Tangled Titles” on Housing Stability, Wealth Preservation, and Aging in Place in Urban Cities

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 11: Pedagogy and the Profession

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 12: Criminal Law: State Power and Conduct

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 13: Criminal Law: Issues with Police and Policing

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 14: Criminal Law: Evidentiary Issues

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 15: Criminal Legal System Structures

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 16: Criminal Law: Second Look and Prison Release

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works in Progress Group 17: Criminal Law: Issues of Punishment

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 1: Immigration and State Law

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 10: Administrative Law, Judicial Review & Litigation Strategies

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 2: Crimmigration & Immigration Narratives

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 3: Civil Rights & Public Records

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 4: Civil Rights

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 5: Workers’ Rights

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 6: Housing and the Courts

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 7: Juvenile Law

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 8: International Human Rights

8:30 AM - 10:00 AM Works-in-Progress Group 9: Tax and Intellectual Property

10:00 AM - 10:15 AM Coffee with Colleagues

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Access to Justice and Clinical Legal Education: The Experience at the Legal Aid Clinic of the Inter American University of Puerto Rico School of Law

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM AI and the Administrative State: Pulling Back the Curtain on the Use of AI in Mass Adjudications and Agency Decision-Making

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Clinicians Abroad: How to Design, Win, and Succeed in a Fulbright Fellowship

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Concurrent Sesssions

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Designing and Directing an Appellate Clinic

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Leveraging Clinical Community Collaboration to Provide a Robust Hybrid Model of Clinical Education

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Navigating the Border - Ethical, Existential, and Logistical Considerations in Law School Service Trips

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Shifting Assumptions: Teaching to Center Commonalities

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM The Importance of, and Strategies for, Teaching Hope: Turning Critique into Problem-Solving, Cynicism into Action

10:15 AM - 11:15 AM Triumphs and Traumas: A Conversation about Conversion to a Unitary Tenure Track

11:30 AM - 1:00 PM Working Group Discussions

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Lunch on Your Own

2:00 PM - 5:15 PM AAPI Clinician's Workshop: Building Resilience Through Allyship and Community

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM Beyond the Seminar: Practicing Empathy with Unlikely Allies and in Unlikely Places

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM Concurrent Sessions

2:00 PM - 5:15 PM Defending the Defenders: Building an Advocacy and Scholarship Agenda to Protect Clinic Partners and Allies from Reprisals

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM Ensuring Access to Clinical Education for Working Students: Why This Is an Equity Imperative and How to Make It Happen

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM Integrating Homeless Rights Advocacy into your Clinic or Clinical Program following Grants Pass v. Johnson

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM Modeling Vulnerability

2:00 PM - 5:15 PM Navigating the Complexities of the Clinical Teaching Market

2:00 PM - 5:15 PM Scholarship Support Workshop

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM Transitioning from Fellow to Director: Maintaining the Crux of Your Training in the Face of Competing Demands

2:00 PM - 5:15 PM Workshops

3:00 PM - 3:15 PM Coffee with Colleagues

3:15 PM - 4:15 PM Across the Great Divide

3:15 PM - 4:15 PM Concurrent Sessions

3:15 PM - 4:15 PM Heirs' Property: Clinical Approaches in Advancing Economic, Racial, and Social Justice in Inherited Land

3:15 PM - 4:15 PM Mid-Semester Feedback for Clinical Professors

3:15 PM - 4:15 PM Showing Up as Our Authentic Selves